Episode 58: Discussion of ‘Outlander’ Episode 108 “Both Sides Now”

In this episode, we discuss recent announcements and Episode 108 “Both Sides Now.”

Links related to Episode 108

Outlander Episode 108  “Both Sides Now ” on IMDB

Ron Moore’s podcast on Episode 108 “Both Sides Now”

Bear McCreary’s blog post on Episode 108 “Both Sides Now”

Writer: Ronald D. Moore

Director: Anna Foerster

 

Links related to content mentioned in podcast

Hugh Munro is played by Simon Meacock.

Occam’s Razor

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15 Responses to Episode 58: Discussion of ‘Outlander’ Episode 108 “Both Sides Now”

  1. cooperbeth37 says:

    its 7 months wait is crazy.But I love Outlander!

  2. Adriene says:

    I don’t the 6 month wait for the rest of the season has anything at all to do with pre/cutting/finalizing the episodes. It has to do with Starz’ schedule and when they think the show will make the most money for them. That said, if we have a 6 month wait now, we might only have to wait 3 or 4 months for season 2!

  3. Taylor says:

    You were right about the thing you were referring to as a nightstick – it is the same as a police baton but (fun fact) that particular sort can also be called a blackjack. Pretty sure the show-runners did that intentionally. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baton_(law_enforcement)

    • VikkyO says:

      Yes! My husband was so excited when he saw the blackjack. He said “I like what they did there.” I think it was pretty cool. Seems Frank wanted to make sure he had something close to his family and something that relates to BJR.

  4. Taylor says:

    Also, according to Richard Clark’s twitter, he directed the last 15 minutes or so of the episode, which I assume means the portion where Claire is at Fort William was filmed back when they were filming episodes 9 and 10 (for continuity purposes?). So that would explain the difference in the length of her hair.

  5. Susan W says:

    it’s hilarious… the thing Frank uses against his attackers is called a “black jack” 🙂

  6. Pat Laster says:

    The thing from Frank’s pocket is a sap. Can be rubber, but usually leather filled with sand. Can do a lot of damage.

  7. Raewyn says:

    Wow! Just discovered you – this is amazing. Will keep me going for a few of the long weeks until next April!

  8. Verity says:

    Just wanted to mention that the Reverend’s conversation after the alley incident implies that Frank had admitted to him that he ENJOYED it. He went far beyond self-defense and was violently kicking a man who was already down and then grabbed a woman who represented no physical danger by the throat. Yes, he pulled out of his spiraling rage at the end, but he did indeed give in to his rage and found it sweet.

  9. Marifel says:

    Interesting that Frank uses the “Black Jack” as a weapon. Frank ENJOYED squeezing Sally-not-her-real-name’s neck.

    Rev. and the Sherlock Quote – CLAIRE uses the same line Ep. 1 😉

  10. Rich says:

    Bit of a spoiler —

    I don’t think Frank disbelieved Mrs. Graham about the stones, I think he may have had a realization. We do know from _Written in My Own Heart’s Blood_ that Frank investigated odd events for MI6 and knew of Jeremiah MacKenzie’s disappearance during WWII.

  11. Dolittle says:

    My basic understanding of Ockham’s Razor (I don’t feel up to taking a Wikipedia trip right now) is that the simplest explanation – based on observable data – is usually the correct one. As for the alley scene, Frank definitely went beyond merely losing control – especially when he nearly strangled “Sneakin’ Sally.” He was beginning to find too much satisfaction in inflicting pain. The Rev. would have been remiss in his duty not to warn Frank of the danger to his soul. Using the Nazis as a very timely reference showed how seriously concerned the Rev was over Frank’s glimpse into the dark side of himself. Even the Nazis could rationalize reasons for their behavior, so the Rev needed to make sure Frank understood that he could also be in danger of losing his humanity. BJR claimed that Scotland changed him. Looks like Frank’s parallel to BJR came dangerously close to intersecting.

  12. Lynne hicks says:

    Ladies thank you again for an entertaining and enjoyable podcast. You’ll be amused to know the thing in Franks hand when he beat those guys in the alley is called a blackjack. Dun dun dun !!!
    Thanks again

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